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Mount Bishop Loop - Elsay Lake Trail, return via Vicar Ridge
Timestamp Free: 2019.11.14 - 09:28:58
Ranges: North America Ranges / Pacific Cordillera Range / Coast Mountains / Pacific Ranges / Fannin Range
  (3 days)
Participants: Betsy Waddington, Robin Tivy, Sandra McGuinness, Doug Brown
Difficulty: 3: Bushwacking, some exposed sections
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I have been up Mount Seymour about 4 times, starting in about 1995 when I climbed it myself. At that time, there was no trail or markings up Bishop, although of course it was climbed decades ago by Fred Mills of the BCMC.

This time we decided it would be an ideal trip to take Doug and Sandra as their last trip before returning to Australia. One complication was that Doug couldn't leave right away on Friday, since he had to meet somebody who was supposed to buy their Honda Odyssey. So the plan was that Sandra, Betsy and I would hike into Elsay Lake, and the next day hike up to Vicar Lakes and climb Bishop. Then Doug would come in with a daypack and meet us at Vicar Lakes.

So on Friday at about 11:00 AM we drove to the Seymour parking lot. A sign said anyone overnight had to park at a lot 500m back down, so Betsy took the car back down. (See gpx file). While she was gone I was quizzed by a guy with a dog and a rope. It was one of those conversations where each person feels out the other's experience level. I said we were going to Mount Bishop. He hadn't heard of it bu he began mentioning places he had been, each time hoping it would be somewhere I hadn't been. I eventually just told him I'd been everywhere. He then warned me to take lots of water and "stay safe". At that point, I realized he may have mis-judged my experience.

Later I was thinking that each of us had thought we were talking to someone different. I assumed he was someone new to the area who quite naturally didn't know all these places like Bishop. From his point of view he was assuming I was some old guy about to get into trouble and need rescue. We later figured he was probably a new member of the search and rescue club who hadn't yet learned how to tell old goats from novices. But at least he was...

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